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Topic: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

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Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 3:12:03 PM

Interesting development:

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 3:20:38 PM

Just saw that. Not sure who that really punishes. Seems like the current players who have nothing to do with it, get hit hardest.

If this happened on Pitino's watch, what's his accountability for it?

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 3:40:33 PM

Couple thoughts:

-What takes so long in these investigations?

-When is something going to come out about Carolina and the academic fraud they've been reported to have committed?

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 3:47:36 PM

light punishment. Wonder how hard they will punish some mid major to make up for it.....

5th years get screwed. Q Snyder and his pops deserve no sympathy as their eyes were wide open... Coaching staff gets off while kids get hosed.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 4:03:33 PM

OU_Country wrote:

Couple thoughts:

-What takes so long in these investigations?

-When is something going to come out about Carolina and the academic fraud they've been reported to have committed?

The NCAA is notorious for taking long with these investigations. Intentional or not, it's almost as if they just take so long so people will stop talking about them. You may or may not remember how long it took them to punish Miami football recently. That killed Miami's recruiting for years because the kids had no idea what hammer was coming, if at all. Why go to a school if you might not be eligible for bowls or they have to cut schollies?

Really, the compliance officers at the school are basically in contact with an NCAA enforcement official giving them all the information they need. Those officials probably set foot on campus and set up shop for a while interviewing as many people as they can and scouring over heaps of documents.

I have to think that's is what takes the longest: tracking down players no longer enrolled and going through pages and pages of compliance paperwork.

Which makes the SMU football case in the 1980s even more bizarre. That program was in complete turmoil and got their hand slapped over and over and over again. Finally, the NCAA stepped in and investigated and punished them royally with the death penalty, but they did it pretty quickly. Unless they were just building a case over the five or so years prior, it seemed like they just came in there and blew it up as quickly as possible. I do kind of believe the fact that they were punishing SMU because it was just SMU and not Texas or Texas A&M. Who's SMU in the NCAA's mind? They're losing $$$ if they give Texas the death penalty.

Last Edited: 2/5/2016 4:08:34 PM by GoCats105

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 4:13:39 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

light punishment. Wonder how hard they will punish some mid major to make up for it.....

This is the "self-imposed" version. Will be interesting to see what the NCAA adds on...if anything

My son is heading there next fall as freshman - I guess his mom will take the basketball dorm off the housing list.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 4:17:47 PM

cc-cat wrote:

bornacatfan wrote:

light punishment. Wonder how hard they will punish some mid major to make up for it.....

Yes, this is the institution trying to "show" that they are serious 😎 Just like OSU tried, but the NCAA will have another present or two waiting under the tree.

Well for one, Pitino gets punished, even though he had no knowledge 😜

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 5:10:30 PM

How much longer will they put up with Pitino and his antics? Louisville only cares about cash and winning. Denny Crum had poor graduation rates before the NCAA started the clock and the admin always looked the other way.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 5:32:22 PM

Louisville is the Akron of the ACC.

There. I said it.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 8:40:24 PM

Hopefully the NCAA Sends a message, and soon, and suspends them for another year from postseason play, and strips a couple schollies. I keep hoping they're going to actually act on UNC, but I'm probably delusional. Roy will probably be in assisted living before that happens.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/5/2016 11:15:36 PM

I flew from Chicago to Utah Wednesday with a woman from Indy that worked on the NCAA Compliance side (official looking folder gave her away). After letting her know there was no U after Ohio anymore than Missouri, Indiana or any other place we talked about academics and compliance issues. Wish this would have come out a few days earlier. COuld have filled the entire flight listening to her take on things. Pretty good conversation anyway.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/6/2016 3:29:22 AM

I'm feeling the O H I O on this...what the real story is:

The NCAA announced today that the Ohio Bobcats will not be meeting Louisville in the first round of this year's NCAA basketball tournament for men.

Last Edited: 2/6/2016 3:30:56 AM by Monroe Slavin

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/6/2016 8:36:50 PM

This obviously means something is really there and L'ville's trying to head off something like the death penalty. Syracuse tried with the Boeheim thing and the NCAA just ignored it. Petino's "shocked" reaction smacks of Captain Renault.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/6/2016 9:49:49 PM

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/6/2016 10:31:23 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

With sex being involved I can see something similar to what Penn St got, only more severe since it's directly related to the b-ball program (unlike Penn St, which had to do with Sandusky's outside program using the facilities).

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/7/2016 2:17:12 AM

Pataskala wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

I'll agree with that, but that wasn't the so called death penalty, and was nothing like what SMU received.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/7/2016 3:28:43 PM

Pataskala wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

The PSU scandal had to do with young boys who were not making a choice. Louisville involved young men who were complicit. The penalty at Louisville will not be even close to that at PSU - nor should it be. And will not be close to a "death penalty" level.

Last Edited: 2/7/2016 3:29:33 PM by cc-cat

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/7/2016 4:15:32 PM

cc-cat wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

Much depends on whether any of those recruits were under 18.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/8/2016 11:20:55 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

cc-cat wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

Much depends on whether any of those recruits were under 18.

Under 18 years of age willfully taking part in sex (at times while their father's were in the next room reportedly doing the same). Don't try to present it in the same breath as the PSU scandal - doing so is an insult to the disgusting situation at PSU. And note, I'm from PSU country and was raised a lions and paterno fan.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/8/2016 2:04:43 PM

cc-cat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

cc-cat wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

The Death penalty isn't even close to being on the table. But, when they come in, they park it and stay as long as it takes to find as much as they can.

Much depends on whether any of those recruits were under 18.

I wasn't and I had an uncle who played for Penn State in the 50's and Joe was one of the first to come see him when he got cancer. My comment was only about kids under 18. Haven't followed the story because it's so sick it doesn't warrant following. Fire them all.

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RE: Louisville Wont Play in NCAA Tournament

Posted: 2/8/2016 2:12:11 PM

Reality is this is nothing new, nor unique - one may not like, or approve of it, but nothing new. Recruits have been hooked up with women since the dawn of scholarships (I knew two guys back in 1979, who were "treated" at Youngstown State on their recruiting trip). Louisville simply got caught. Same as when it comes out a recruit received money - and people act shocked and appalled.

The hypocrite in the whole situation is Pitino acting like he had no idea. Coaches know where recruits are every second they are on campus.....unless they want to be able to say they don't know.

Last Edited: 2/8/2016 2:18:15 PM by cc-cat

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