Welcome Guest! Create an Account login email: password: remember me: BASKETBALL Latest News News Archive Schedule/Results Multi-Media Recruiting FOOTBALL Latest News News Archive Schedule/Results Multi-Media Recruiting MESSAGE BOARD Message Home - Ohio Basketball - Ohio Basketball Recruiting - The O Zone - Ohio Football - Ohio Football Recruiting - Ohio Volleyball - Ohio Baseball - Ohio Olympic Sports... - General OU Discussion... - Website Feedback... - Posting Policy Edit My Profile Private Messages Logout CHAT LINKS site searchwhere to watchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp Message Board BobcatAttack.com Message Board Ohio Basketball Topic:  RE: Kudos to Administration Topic:  RE: Kudos to Administration Author Message OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/17/2015 12:06:05 PM  OU_Country wrote: Agree with all your points, and really like #2, which I had not considered. Me either. We tend to look at other teams and how they affect us but you know there are fans of other teams looking at the Ohio date and bemoaning the fact that their coach or AD scheduled a 10 win 200 RPI team. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/17/2015 11:38:06 PM  OUVan wrote: OU_Country wrote: Agree with all your points, and really like #2, which I had not considered. Me either. We tend to look at other teams and how they affect us but you know there are fans of other teams looking at the Ohio date and bemoaning the fact that their coach or AD scheduled a 10 win 200 RPI team. Not good call. OHIO is solid brand. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,949 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/18/2015 2:29:56 PM  On the other hand, coaches could look at Ohio, see a 10-win team and view it as an opportunity to pick up a winnable game that looks better than it actually is. The opposing program can say they scheduled a team that recently was in the Sweet 16 instead of "another game against a MAC school", maybe? Kinda like our win at North Carolina. It looks really, really good in hindsight, even if UNC was in the depths of its Daugherty dirge. Just a thought. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/18/2015 5:46:38 PM  Delete Pending wrote: On the other hand, coaches could look at Ohio, see a 10-win team and view it as an opportunity to pick up a winnable game that looks better than it actually is. The opposing program can say they scheduled a team that recently was in the Sweet 16 instead of "another game against a MAC school", maybe? Kinda like our win at North Carolina. It looks really, really good in hindsight, even if UNC was in the depths of its Daugherty dirge. Just a thought. We are what our RPI says we are. We don't look at wins over mids that have been to the Sweet 16 lately like that, why would anyone else? We look at them for what they are. UNC is a rarified air school. I'd like to think we have the best program in the MAC but even that is debatable. The only teams that ten years from now will be talking about their win over Ohio are teams we are complaining about having on the schedule now. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/19/2015 1:20:14 AM  OU_Country wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: the123kid wrote: We won't get big dogs to come here, but we do have a realistic shot to do a 2 for 1 with some schools. Teams in the Valley, American or mid-high level A-10 would be fine for this. Might even get the occasional Big East to bite on this... I've never noticed too much trouble trying to pick up 1 for 1's with the MVC. All the A-10 schools will do it except Dayton. American schools vary so much in quality that unless its Cincy, Temple, Memphis or UConn fans will better recognize a Horizon League team. Why do we have to schedule so many games with "name recognition"? SMU would be a fantastic game for us in a year or two, and getting Houston, USF, and UCF wouldn't be a bad thing. I personally think Groce and a little bit more, Christian, did a nice job scheduling teams that were at the top of their conference, and teams that likely were going to the tournament, or did the year before. I guess the point I'm making is that I highly doubt most of the games we schedule are done with the concern to name recognition. Instead, I'd assume they're looking for a mix of winnable SOS/RPI boosters against quality opponents, and other games that should easily be winnable at home just before MAC play starts. I'd be interested to know all the thought processes that go into how an AD and Coaching staff build a schedule. If I'd venture to guess the average Ohio fan would prefer to watch Cleveland St or Valpo over UCF & USF because the former are familiar as basketball schools. SMU is another name that wouldn't travel to the Convo. The way to game RPI is to have a lot of home games. Statistically 67% of home teams win games so that is why Ohio in recent years has loaded up with the Jackson State level schools. From the perspective of fan excitement, a preseason tournament, roadie against a P5 and a couple of good home games from the MVC, Horizon or A10 mixed in with easy buy games at home is a good balance to get the fans excited going into MAC play. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/19/2015 1:21:27 AM  OUVan wrote: Delete Pending wrote: On the other hand, coaches could look at Ohio, see a 10-win team and view it as an opportunity to pick up a winnable game that looks better than it actually is. The opposing program can say they scheduled a team that recently was in the Sweet 16 instead of "another game against a MAC school", maybe? Kinda like our win at North Carolina. It looks really, really good in hindsight, even if UNC was in the depths of its Daugherty dirge. Just a thought. We are what our RPI says we are. We don't look at wins over mids that have been to the Sweet 16 lately like that, why would anyone else? We look at them for what they are. UNC is a rarified air school. I'd like to think we have the best program in the MAC but even that is debatable. The only teams that ten years from now will be talking about their win over Ohio are teams we are complaining about having on the schedule now. Florida Gulf Coast is on the schedule. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: Nowinsky Country Post Count: 1,611 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/20/2015 5:48:20 PM  Perhaps we could schedule a home game with an engineering school and work that roof study into the deal. Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/20/2015 6:10:03 PM  Pete Chouteau wrote: Perhaps we could schedule a home game with an engineering school and work that roof study into the deal. Purdue perhaps? :) Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,421 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/20/2015 9:50:42 PM  Mark Lembright '85 wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: Perhaps we could schedule a home game with an engineering school and work that roof study into the deal. Purdue perhaps? :) Got Indiana Tech coming up you know. "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top bobcat2nc General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Post Count: 584 Status: Offline     RE: Kudos to Administration    Posted: 9/23/2015 9:06:26 AM  oldkatz wrote: Mark Lembright '85 wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: Perhaps we could schedule a home game with an engineering school and work that roof study into the deal. Purdue perhaps? :) Got Indiana Tech coming up you know. 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