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Had they also agreed to stop even recognizing divisions in basketball it would have been perfect. Last Edited: 5/28/2015 6:18:31 PM by ts1227 Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,046 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/28/2015 11:19:38 PM  Good move IMO. A return to the good old days in Cleveland. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 1:07:51 AM  tic sales the obvious reason Even one game with OHIO there boosts revenue RS Bobcat Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 8:54:31 AM  Halleluyah!!! Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 9:18:23 AM  The only question I might have is how this will affect the Women's quarterfinals. I would assume they will play Wednesday? I like this format. While I've never been to the full deal Thursday to Saturday, this format is incentive for me to do so more than it was before. I still thought the top two getting byes to Friday was worthwhile. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,232 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 10:22:41 AM  This will benefit us as early as next year. I think we are going to be a top 4 team and get the bye but we also may be an early work in progress that loses some games early before meshing. We will be that team no one wants to play by season's end. We will have what I finally see as an "atypical" college team. An inside presence with Tony, a solid point guard in Jaaron and shooters galore to kick to in Kaminski, Ryan Taylor, Gollon and Block. Toss in two workhorse hustle guys in Treg and Laster and we are the blueprint for mid-majors. Now if Wadly and/or Doug Taylor/Dozier can give us ANYTHING I think we contend from the beginning. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 11:06:08 AM  I like your optimism. We'll need to see a lot of contributions from a couple freshman to be really good, but you have to like the excitement coach has about Simmons & Kaminski, and we know what to expect from Taylor & Tony. The good thing is the level of competition for PT in a lot of spots that simply didn't exist last year. When I asked Saul at the Bluestone about red-shirting one of his frosh, he really seemed excited about that competition. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 2:18:35 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: This will benefit us as early as next year. I think we are going to be a top 4 team and get the bye but we also may be an early work in progress that loses some games early before meshing. We will be that team no one wants to play by season's end. We will have what I finally see as an "atypical" college team. An inside presence with Tony, a solid point guard in Jaaron and shooters galore to kick to in Kaminski, Ryan Taylor, Gollon and Block. Toss in two workhorse hustle guys in Treg and Laster and we are the blueprint for mid-majors. Now if Wadly and/or Doug Taylor/Dozier can give us ANYTHING I think we contend from the beginning. Careful, we do not want to explode any heads in the class of 71. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Tom Valentino General User Member Since: 3/13/2005 Location: Painesville, OH Post Count: 272 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 2:46:20 PM  OU_Country wrote: The only question I might have is how this will affect the Women's quarterfinals. I would assume they will play Wednesday? Correct. On Twitter: @1tomvalentino | TheNailPodcast.com Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,699 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 3:43:00 PM  I was one of the few who liked the current set up, just wanted a slight tweak to just cut out the 11 & 12 seeds, so it was 1 & 2 triple bye, 3 & 4 double bye, 5 & 6 single bye, 7 & 8 home game, 9 & 10 away game, 11 & 12 out. I just really like high emphasis on the regular season and thought this was a good way to strike a balance between the regular season mattering yet still having the winner take all ending. Now we are back to the regular season being quite meaningless. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,117 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 5/29/2015 4:15:33 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: I was one of the few who liked the current set up, just wanted a slight tweak to just cut out the 11 & 12 seeds, so it was 1 & 2 triple bye, 3 & 4 double bye, 5 & 6 single bye, 7 & 8 home game, 9 & 10 away game, 11 & 12 out. I just really like high emphasis on the regular season and thought this was a good way to strike a balance between the regular season mattering yet still having the winner take all ending. Now we are back to the regular season being quite meaningless. The release said the MAC is doing more the emphasize athlete wellness. In the previous format, there was the potential for teams to play games up to four consecutive days, sometimes against fresher teams. I can see how this move may be in conjunction with athlete health. Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: Nowinsky Country Post Count: 1,611 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/2/2015 9:47:44 PM  Cough, cough, bullcrap, cough. The format was a joke. It's absurd to think that anybody with gainful employment could or would ever travel when that travel may be happening on any of 3 days with the infernal byes. People quit coming. They just have to hope people come back. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/2/2015 10:04:42 PM  Pete Chouteau wrote: Cough, cough, bullcrap, cough. The format was a joke. It's absurd to think that anybody with gainful employment could or would ever travel when that travel may be happening on any of 3 days with the infernal byes. People quit coming. They just have to hope people come back. Excellent point Pete. When someone doesn't do something for a year or two, the risk is run that they may just say, "I don't really need to do that anymore." It often takes a compelling reason to get people to come back. Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,003 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/3/2015 8:01:11 AM  Alan Swank wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: Cough, cough, bullcrap, cough. The format was a joke. It's absurd to think that anybody with gainful employment could or would ever travel when that travel may be happening on any of 3 days with the infernal byes. People quit coming. They just have to hope people come back. Excellent point Pete. When someone doesn't do something for a year or two, the risk is run that they may just say, "I don't really need to do that anymore." It often takes a compelling reason to get people to come back. A Bobcat, Flash, Rocket & Zip Final Four is all that is needed to cure that ill. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/3/2015 10:10:10 AM  MonroeClassmate wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: Cough, cough, bullcrap, cough. The format was a joke. It's absurd to think that anybody with gainful employment could or would ever travel when that travel may be happening on any of 3 days with the infernal byes. People quit coming. They just have to hope people come back. Excellent point Pete. When someone doesn't do something for a year or two, the risk is run that they may just say, "I don't really need to do that anymore." It often takes a compelling reason to get people to come back. A Bobcat, Flash, Rocket & Zip Final Four is all that is needed to cure that ill. The problem is that there just weren't enough games with teams that were good that year and had their fansbases engaged. I understand the desire to reward the best teams but having the first few days of the tournament not include any of the top teams makes the event a non-event. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/3/2015 10:08:09 PM  Good news that the best 4 schools are going to Cleveland without preference to division. As to divisions or not in basketball since you play everyone in the opposite division plus 2 school twice during the conference season it doesn't make too much of a difference. No divisions in football would make much more of a difference since only 3 schools from the opposite division show up on the schedule every year. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/3/2015 10:20:58 PM  MonroeClassmate wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: Cough, cough, bullcrap, cough. The format was a joke. It's absurd to think that anybody with gainful employment could or would ever travel when that travel may be happening on any of 3 days with the infernal byes. People quit coming. They just have to hope people come back. Excellent point Pete. When someone doesn't do something for a year or two, the risk is run that they may just say, "I don't really need to do that anymore." It often takes a compelling reason to get people to come back. A Bobcat, Flash, Rocket & Zip Final Four is all that is needed to cure that ill. Exactly RS Bobcat Back to Top clodney General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 57 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/22/2015 10:02:12 AM  I guess 2 years without an Ohio school winning was seen as a huge problem. And you guys always say we're (Buffalo) ridiculous for wanting out of the MAC. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/22/2015 10:45:03 AM  clodney wrote: I guess 2 years without an Ohio school winning was seen as a huge problem. And you guys always say we're (Buffalo) ridiculous for wanting out of the MAC. I don't have a problem with non-Ohio teams winning it. It certainly helps attendance if one of the local teams has a team making a run but the biggest problem has been that the good teams' fans don't even think of showing up until Friday. With the changes there should be better attendance on Thursday. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,046 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/22/2015 12:15:06 PM  Agree w Van. Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/22/2015 1:13:56 PM  clodney wrote: I guess 2 years without an Ohio school winning was seen as a huge problem. And you guys always say we're (Buffalo) ridiculous for wanting out of the MAC. No, you misheard, we said you're ridiculous, period. That is one of the silliest conspiracy theories I've heard in a long time. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,699 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/26/2015 9:34:45 AM  The whole "MAC stacks the deck for Ohio teams" conspiracy is some serious tin foil hat stuff. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/26/2015 11:17:18 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: The whole "MAC stacks the deck for Ohio teams" conspiracy is some serious tin foil hat stuff. Agreed. Other than WMU and UB, all the other non-Ohio teams haven't been very good for awhile. I've always said it would really be a boost for the MAC for Ball State to get back to being a really solid team. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: MAC Tournament format changes for 2016    Posted: 6/28/2015 10:43:09 AM  OU_Country wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: The whole "MAC stacks the deck for Ohio teams" conspiracy is some serious tin foil hat stuff. Agreed. Other than WMU and UB, all the other non-Ohio teams haven't been very good for awhile. I've always said it would really be a boost for the MAC for Ball State to get back to being a really solid team. Agreed. For any Buffalonian to assert that this is stacked is just not being real about the state of the program under Reg and the MAC. Balls being relevant is good for the MAC. NIU is so far gone there is little hope there. WMU/CMU and EMU all have the potential to be good but have not done what it takes in recruiting, coaching and team building to get there. Toledo is a sleeping Giant and BUGS just shot themselves in the foot. Clod....you are not being objective about the situation. Facts are facts and Non OHIO based schools have not been very good as of late....for that matter neither have other Ohio based schools for the most part. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 26 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 266 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 266 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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