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Topic:  what about the ones who don't get drafted?
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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 9:38:46 AM 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/sports/basketball/upon-...
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 10:19:12 AM 
Some salient points about timing and extraneous players in the process but I am firmly in the who gives a flying f? Let them go out of high school.

If my kid drops out to enter the work force no one gives a care. These kids have in their minds what they are going to do just like mine do. If they choose poorly why do we feel the need to provide a safety net?

Handlers trying to get rich on kids who are first or second rounders. 64 spots for 1300 to 1500 kids coming out of NCAA basketball a year. If 100 is a year leave who cares? Still competitive and you alleviate the sham that those kids are actually there to be in school.

When I have the chance to talk to the Indiana kids who will become pros I tell them to take 2 courses.... Public speaking and a basic business course that will teach them a bit of how to read a spreadsheet, a little bit if accounting, how to read a contact and maybe some info on insurance, trusts and taxes

At 18, they are adults. Let them make their own choices like we let every other 18yo. Who cares and ultimately how much does it affect our life?




Last Edited: 4/12/2015 10:20:43 AM by bornacatfan


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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 11:30:37 AM 
Basketball players who aren't drafted have it better than any other sport I can think of. It seems to me a good amount of guys who were very average in college can make very good money playing basketball in Europe. At the money they can make, that is a pretty solid backup plan.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 5:47:25 PM 
I don't really care, either. Let anyone play that is wanted. I don't agree with the current rule about losing your eligibility. If you commit and don't get drafted, you should still be eligible. Does anyone know what the actual rule is?
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bornacatfan
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 7:48:10 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Does anyone know what the actual rule is?


http://www.ncaa.org/remaining-eligible-professional-draft...


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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 8:14:46 PM 
I agree about losing eligibility. I would think that you shouldn't lose your eligibility until you actually receive money for being a player. I've never heard why hiring an agent causes you to lose your eligibility. Or simply declaring for the NBA Draft. So what? You haven't received any income for your skills yet. So in the same vein, if you aren't drafted, and you don't sign some other contract as an undrafted free agent that you get paid for, I see no reason that you should lose your eligibility.
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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/12/2015 9:31:13 PM 
Then they must withdraw from the draft before the actual draft, which is in June. No one can be guaranteed a draft slot, so that is a negative.

Last Edited: 4/12/2015 9:31:56 PM by giacomo

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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/15/2015 2:20:47 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Then they must withdraw from the draft before the actual draft, which is in June. No one can be guaranteed a draft slot, so that is a negative.


So here is an idea. Why make college players declare for the draft at all? Don't leave it in the hands of the kids or their handlers to make the right decision. If an NBA team wants to draft a kid they can draft his rights and he can come out when he wants and no one loses eligibility until he signs on the dotted line.
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/15/2015 2:56:32 PM 
OUVan wrote:
giacomo wrote:
Then they must withdraw from the draft before the actual draft, which is in June. No one can be guaranteed a draft slot, so that is a negative.


So here is an idea. Why make college players declare for the draft at all? Don't leave it in the hands of the kids or their handlers to make the right decision. If an NBA team wants to draft a kid they can draft his rights and he can come out when he wants and no one loses eligibility until he signs on the dotted line.


Clubs are too lazy to do that. Not like baseball where guys evaluate and do the work. I like the idea though


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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/16/2015 10:53:07 AM 
I agree with a lot of the posts here. If a high school kid is a computer whiz and gets a 6+-figure job in Silicon Valley, no one cares that he takes the job instead of college. But if it's a star football or bball player who wants to turn pro, holy hell is raised. So they do sham year at a "P"5 school -- so the school can make some money off them -- and then go pro. It's a waste of his time and a waste of a schollie that could be used for some kid who actually wants to get an education.

Last Edited: 4/16/2015 10:53:58 AM by Pataskala


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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/16/2015 11:09:16 AM 
OUVan wrote:
giacomo wrote:
Then they must withdraw from the draft before the actual draft, which is in June. No one can be guaranteed a draft slot, so that is a negative.


So here is an idea. Why make college players declare for the draft at all? Don't leave it in the hands of the kids or their handlers to make the right decision. If an NBA team wants to draft a kid they can draft his rights and he can come out when he wants and no one loses eligibility until he signs on the dotted line.



Personally, I love this idea - with some sensible parameters that are applied in a similar way to baseball. The backwards thing is that there are players that play baseball and college football/basketball that "get paid" for being a minor league player in baseball, and somehow it's not a big deal.
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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: what about the ones who don't get drafted?
   Posted: 4/16/2015 1:48:20 PM 
OUVan, it too perfect and simple an idea to lift off.
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