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Ted Thompson
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   Posted: 4/7/2015 2:26:19 PM 

OU_Country wrote:
Gus Johnson, Ladies' Man wrote:
Also of note on that list: Tariq Owens


The movie about Dad and AAU coach living vicariously through Tariq's college career?

 

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   Posted: 4/7/2015 2:43:45 PM 
From Tennessee's message board, a note from Tariq's dad-

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Posting as Onative in another thread, Tariq's father explains his leaving. Thought this deserved a thread of it's own since so many had read the other. Sounds like his dad knows his basketball and just looking out for his welfare. Wishing him great success wherever he chooses to go.

"First I would like to say how much it was a pleasure being around the great University of Tennessee. Myself and my son Tariq Owens never wanted to leave Tennessee. When coaches change and the entire staff changes it makes for a very difficult situation. This decision wasn't a easy one but it was one we felt we needed to make.
For the most part it has been positive feed back. Few of you guys are passionate fans and have said some negative things and that's your opinion. Some of you guys have never played competive sports on a high level. Whether we want to accept this fact or not college sports is a business. My son has his own goals that he wants to try and achieve he has a small window to try and make that a reality.
The difference between staying and leaving came down to two important factors. Under the CDT staff we knew that they would recruit other players but what a lot you don't know is that this team would have been built around the players they have and they would have a opportunity not a guarantee. We all know you don't produce you not going to play much. With Barnes there is no relationship and nothing vested in the boys on UT now. No disrespect to Coach Barnes he has to do what he feels is best moving forward. Tariq could have benefitted by redshirting this year. But due to the personnel and previous coaching change they needed him to play early. He showed signs of his upside even given away 30-40 pounds most nights when he played against the other bigs. He average 6-7 minutes a game this year and that came in the later part of the season. If you know basketball you know he has potential he's not there yet but it will come.
The other determining factor is not having anyone from CDT staff stay. Atleast one that has a relationship with the current boys. Coach Pinkins could help with the transition the team trust him. That's not in place. The question for me was do Tariq stay at Tennessee where he may not get the opportunity to maximize his potential or do we look for another opportunity where he will have that opportunity. It's better to be where your celebrated and not tolerated. If CDT was still at UT we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Sometimes life throws you curves you have to deal with it. I wish nothing but the best for The VOLS and will follow the boys who stay progress. GOD BLESS all you and I appreciate all the ones who ever supported Tariq Owens. The ones who didn't I appreciate you too because criticizing helps you stay focus and working hard as well.
Thanks again Renard Owens"


http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/...


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   Posted: 4/7/2015 3:03:12 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
From Tennessee's message board, a note from Tariq's dad-

Quote:
Posting as Onative in another thread, Tariq's father explains his leaving. Thought this deserved a thread of it's own since so many had read the other. Sounds like his dad knows his basketball and just looking out for his welfare. Wishing him great success wherever he chooses to go.

"First I would like to say how much it was a pleasure being around the great University of Tennessee. Myself and my son Tariq Owens never wanted to leave Tennessee. When coaches change and the entire staff changes it makes for a very difficult situation. This decision wasn't a easy one but it was one we felt we needed to make.
For the most part it has been positive feed back. Few of you guys are passionate fans and have said some negative things and that's your opinion. Some of you guys have never played competive sports on a high level. Whether we want to accept this fact or not college sports is a business. My son has his own goals that he wants to try and achieve he has a small window to try and make that a reality.
The difference between staying and leaving came down to two important factors. Under the CDT staff we knew that they would recruit other players but what a lot you don't know is that this team would have been built around the players they have and they would have a opportunity not a guarantee. We all know you don't produce you not going to play much. With Barnes there is no relationship and nothing vested in the boys on UT now. No disrespect to Coach Barnes he has to do what he feels is best moving forward. Tariq could have benefitted by redshirting this year. But due to the personnel and previous coaching change they needed him to play early. He showed signs of his upside even given away 30-40 pounds most nights when he played against the other bigs. He average 6-7 minutes a game this year and that came in the later part of the season. If you know basketball you know he has potential he's not there yet but it will come.
The other determining factor is not having anyone from CDT staff stay. Atleast one that has a relationship with the current boys. Coach Pinkins could help with the transition the team trust him. That's not in place. The question for me was do Tariq stay at Tennessee where he may not get the opportunity to maximize his potential or do we look for another opportunity where he will have that opportunity. It's better to be where your celebrated and not tolerated. If CDT was still at UT we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Sometimes life throws you curves you have to deal with it. I wish nothing but the best for The VOLS and will follow the boys who stay progress. GOD BLESS all you and I appreciate all the ones who ever supported Tariq Owens. The ones who didn't I appreciate you too because criticizing helps you stay focus and working hard as well.
Thanks again Renard Owens"


http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/...


Karma... she's a beast.


Sounds like Daddy is trying to live vicariously through his son...
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   Posted: 4/7/2015 3:37:15 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
From Tennessee's message board, a note from Tariq's dad-

Quote:
Posting as Onative in another thread, Tariq's father explains his leaving. Thought this deserved a thread of it's own since so many had read the other. Sounds like his dad knows his basketball and just looking out for his welfare. Wishing him great success wherever he chooses to go.

"First I would like to say how much it was a pleasure being around the great University of Tennessee. Myself and my son Tariq Owens never wanted to leave Tennessee. When coaches change and the entire staff changes it makes for a very difficult situation. This decision wasn't a easy one but it was one we felt we needed to make.
For the most part it has been positive feed back. Few of you guys are passionate fans and have said some negative things and that's your opinion. Some of you guys have never played competive sports on a high level. Whether we want to accept this fact or not college sports is a business. My son has his own goals that he wants to try and achieve he has a small window to try and make that a reality.
The difference between staying and leaving came down to two important factors. Under the CDT staff we knew that they would recruit other players but what a lot you don't know is that this team would have been built around the players they have and they would have a opportunity not a guarantee. We all know you don't produce you not going to play much. With Barnes there is no relationship and nothing vested in the boys on UT now. No disrespect to Coach Barnes he has to do what he feels is best moving forward. Tariq could have benefitted by redshirting this year. But due to the personnel and previous coaching change they needed him to play early. He showed signs of his upside even given away 30-40 pounds most nights when he played against the other bigs. He average 6-7 minutes a game this year and that came in the later part of the season. If you know basketball you know he has potential he's not there yet but it will come.
The other determining factor is not having anyone from CDT staff stay. Atleast one that has a relationship with the current boys. Coach Pinkins could help with the transition the team trust him. That's not in place. The question for me was do Tariq stay at Tennessee where he may not get the opportunity to maximize his potential or do we look for another opportunity where he will have that opportunity. It's better to be where your celebrated and not tolerated. If CDT was still at UT we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Sometimes life throws you curves you have to deal with it. I wish nothing but the best for The VOLS and will follow the boys who stay progress. GOD BLESS all you and I appreciate all the ones who ever supported Tariq Owens. The ones who didn't I appreciate you too because criticizing helps you stay focus and working hard as well.
Thanks again Renard Owens"


http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/...


Karma... she's a beast.


Yeah, I'm cynical about this, but after you read that, it sure feels more like Renard's decision that Tariq's. I wonder how many coaches really want to give him a shot given the track record of the last 2 years? I'm a UC fan after I'm a Bobcats fan, and I can't see why Cronin would want Tariq given that he already has three guys like him that are proven. I guess having four 6'10" guys is a good thing. It worked well for UK and Wisconsin.
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   Posted: 4/8/2015 9:08:06 AM 
Kind of fun to go back in recruiting and reread the 12 or so pages on Tariq and Love's Twitter discussion with Pops after seeing this

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   Posted: 4/8/2015 11:45:24 AM 
This kid will NEVER play any meaningful minutes for a Division I school. If he stays at all he will be the 12th man. I am sorry but full of excuses and talent but a "me first" mentality. Wish the kid well but those around him are steering him in the wrong direction.
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   Posted: 4/8/2015 12:12:40 PM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
This kid will NEVER play any meaningful minutes for a Division I school. If he stays at all he will be the 12th man. I am sorry but full of excuses and talent but a "me first" mentality. Wish the kid well but those around him are steering him in the wrong direction.


Never? I wouldn't jump to that conclusion on my Jump to Conclusions Mat.
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   Posted: 4/8/2015 3:03:47 PM 
Alex Kline þ@TheRecruitScoop · 10m10 minutes ago
RT @JonRothstein: Tennessee transfer Tariq Owens has committed to St. John's.

GO BOBCATS
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   Posted: 4/8/2015 5:28:21 PM 
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
Alex Kline þ@TheRecruitScoop · 10m10 minutes ago
RT @JonRothstein: Tennessee transfer Tariq Owens has committed to St. John's.



What's his AAU coach say about this?

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   Posted: 4/9/2015 8:14:06 AM 
Yep, St John's bound:

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/rep.../
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   Posted: 4/13/2015 5:04:02 PM 
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN

Updated Transfer List will be out tomorrow. There are already more than 450 players leaving between the mid-year and end-of-year lists.




yeesh.

never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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   Posted: 4/13/2015 9:26:53 PM 
I hope for this kid's sake that he makes it but I would put good money on the fact that he will never play a minute for the Red Storm. No way he will sit out a year and improve from that. He doesn't appear to have the patience of a Kaminski or Simmons :)
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   Posted: 4/14/2015 4:15:16 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN

Updated Transfer List will be out tomorrow. There are already more than 450 players leaving between the mid-year and end-of-year lists.




yeesh.


Chandler Thomas is on the new list.
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   Posted: 4/22/2015 11:59:49 PM 
Add Anton Grady of Cleveland State to the list of graduate transfers who are immediately eligible. An undersized power forward, but standing 6-8 has a chance to play. Knee trouble has bothered him in the past. Gary Waters at CSU has graduated 36-36 seniors but has lost Trey Lewis and Anton Grady to graduation eligibility also a team who was scheduled to have Bryn Forbes who is now at michigan state. I feel bad for mid majors like this and a coach who recruits well, but has the struggle of being a mid major.
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   Posted: 4/23/2015 8:27:06 AM 
Odd that a decade ago we were talking about non qualifiers and prop 48's and now we are feeling sorry for mid majors getting poached as guys graduate with degrees and are looking for a higher level of school

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   Posted: 4/23/2015 8:30:56 AM 
Groce secured perhaps the biggest grad transfer prize available - Mike Thorne from Charlotte.
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   Posted: 4/23/2015 1:41:48 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Groce secured perhaps the biggest grad transfer prize available - Mike Thorne from Charlotte.


He's also one of the finalists for Villanova Grad Transfer Dylan Ennis.
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   Posted: 4/23/2015 5:31:19 PM 
Saw Buffs lost a shooter . Visiting Bradley amongst others. http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25214

Transfer U. in CHampaign....Groce is still having to find guys to fill holes left by immediate predecessor (who is busy tearing Kansas State to peices). There are no seniors on the roster next year from the hole left by Weber. Transfers needed to fill the holes and balance the classes as Groce's first class becomes juniors.

never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer.....

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   Posted: 4/24/2015 8:55:41 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
Odd that a decade ago we were talking about non qualifiers and prop 48's and now we are feeling sorry for mid majors getting poached as guys graduate with degrees and are looking for a higher level of school
what are your thoughts on that? I do feel for coaches who recruit these kids.the good thing is they graduate and get the degree before moving on. I guess this is the price of red shirting now? I love Gary Waters at CSU and just have to feel for him as a hometown Cleveland guy that I am. But I am feeling this way for all mid majors that have this going on.
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