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Bobcat1998
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Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/25/2014 9:22:19 PM

Come on Stevie. How do you have one assist and seven turnovers? How do you miss all seven of your field goals and one free throw while missing five 3-pointers? Come on man! Just handle the ball and take care of turnovers. I cannot imagine how demoralizing it is for him in practice when Jaaron Simmons tears him up and shows him what a primetime PG is. Next year's starting lineup with Simmons, Kaminski, Ryan Taylor, Tony Campbell and Mike Laster/Jordan Dartis/Gavin Block is going to be sick. I love Stevie when he's on but he seems to be thinking he's a PTP'er. He's not.

Columbus_Bobcat
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/25/2014 10:36:36 PM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

When I think about our team next year I almost get giddy. NO doubt Simmons will be the premier PG with SG's Dartis/Taylor/Laster F's Kaminski/Setty C's Wadly/Campbell. If we had N'dour next year I would say we would be the best team in the MAC hands down.

Cielec321
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/25/2014 11:00:23 PM

He's definitely had a bad start to the season but he'll come out of it. The rest of the team looks pretty bad as well, we can't get a whole lot of open looks and that appears to be hurting us really bad, although Stevie missed a couple wide open shots in the corner tonight.

Bobcat1998
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/25/2014 11:02:16 PM

Stevie is energy guy. He's vocal leader. He just isn't a top flight point guard.

Chicken George
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/25/2014 11:34:06 PM

At this early juncture, this team is merely a poor man's version of last years team though while having an excellent record on paper, you never really felt would go very far despite the excellent record.

You basically replace a polished Nick Kellog (and Travis Wilkins to some degree) with two guys who might very well be just as good or better down the road, but aren't right now (Laster/Taylor). And you replace Jon Smith with Wadley--another downgrade.

Otherwise, it's the same team. So while it's way too early to tell how this season will play out, I'm not expecting a ton more than last year and in fact, expect less. Hope I'm wrong.

FearLeon
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 3:41:45 AM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

Stevie is energy guy. He's vocal leader. He just isn't a top flight point guard.

He's had his moments: Morgan State, Ohio State and Kent State. However, the one thing that's been consistent about Stevie throughout his career is his inconsistency. Love his energy, but he's been put in a position that he shouldn't be in. He's not a starting point guard and this was a concern of many when DJ graduated. If Simmons is playing this year, Taylor is coming off the bench getting 8-10 minutes a game. PG will stick out like a sore thumb all year, unless Taylor decides to play under control and be a game manager.

Last Edited: 11/26/2014 9:23:44 AM by FearLeon

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100%Cat
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 7:27:43 AM

It looked like he and Bean weren't aware that we were wearing our home whites last night. Those two (without looking at the box score) had to have combined for 12+ turnovers on their own.

UpSan Bobcat
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 9:34:13 AM

FearLeon wrote:

Bobcat1998 wrote:

Stevie is energy guy. He's vocal leader. He just isn't a top flight point guard.

FearLeon is right. Stevie always has been up and down, and he's definitely had a down start to the year. He would fit better as a limited-minute backup who could see extra minutes when he's playing well, but unfortunately, we can't really do that. Bean at least provides a scoring threat, but he's too turnover-prone to play point guard all the time.

jumper80
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 10:35:58 AM

We are going to see a lot of zone this year.
Neither of our guards are natural distributors of the ball. (captain obvious)
When you pile on the fact that none of our bigs are very good
at interior passing defeating the zone becomes a major struggle.
That can get better as they get more experience together however
probably only marginally as court vision and deliverying a pass properly and on time I think is pretty instinctive to begin with. If we aren't knocking them down from range our guards feel the pressure to try to do things they are naturally good at in tight quarters....equals turnovers.
Having KK available to open inside lanes with his outside threat would go a long way toward masking this weakness. Turning blue holding my breath on that however. Super excited for the future, still cautiously optimistic for this season as I think we have enough talented ingrediants that the final product will get better. That's my story and I'm sticking to it....for now.

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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 1:27:26 PM

S. Taylor- 24 minutes
R. Taylor- 32 minutes

MY STATE. MY TEAM.

BobcatSports
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 3:19:57 PM

Think the piling on is unfair. Stevie showed to be a pretty good contributing PG last year, in spite of JC in my opinion. Christian seemed hell-bent to me early on that Willis was going to be the PG and Stevie got a quick hook before he could even get in the flow of the game. When Willis continued to struggle and JC gave Stevie the floor, I think Stevie responded well. It was his leg injury that forced him out, not his play.

Fully acknowledge that Stevie is having a rough start to the Saul-Ball era. I also expect him to settle down and into Saul's system going forward. Stevie has proven to be a competitor, he'll right his ship IMHO.

OUVan
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 4:43:41 PM

BobcatSports wrote:

I agree with this. I think the whole team is going to take some time to get used to the new system and new personnel.

LuckySparrow
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/26/2014 10:43:07 PM

I think Stevie will be fine. He was out for a bit before the season started due to a concussion, no? A slow start doesn't surprise me.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

OhioCatFan
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RE: Come on Stevie

Posted: 11/27/2014 1:23:39 PM

Stevie is a great person and very motivated. He'll figure out his new role in the new system and will improve as the season progresses. This will be kind of like the football season where the team improves from game to game; however, I expect the improvement to be a little faster because it's a lot easier to get a dozen or so guys on the same page compared to 105 -- or five at a time compared to 12 on O and 12 on D. I'm still hoping that K will get his waiver approved. That would instantly make this team into something to be reckoned with -- and the team to beat in the MAC.

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