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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/5/2014 10:54:30 AM 
Ozcat wrote:
Mark me down in the 'disappointed' column.  Very underwhelming schedule.


My biggest disappointment is that many of the best Saturday games are when students aren't on campus.  I know that's partially out of the hands of those who schedule, but it sure would be nice to have that Belmont game in December when the crowd could be 8000+ instead of 3500.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/5/2014 1:31:32 PM 
anorris wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
OakStreet wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
OakStreet wrote:
Living out of state, I haven't been to an Ohio home basketball game in years. Given this schedule, what do you think is the best Saturday game to attend to get a good opponent and big, lively crowd? 


Buffalo (1-24-15) or Kent State (2-21-15)


Thanks! Weather permitting, I am determined to make it to a game in Athens this season. Usually, we come for a football game each season but we're not doing that this year because it's too difficult to find hotel rooms. Going to go to the football games at UK and Western Michigan instead. Gotta get my Athens fix during basketball season this year!



One route you might try for football season is finding a cabin in the Hocking Hills area.  The lack of available rooms for football is quite surprising for me too.

Highly recommend this route if you have a sober driver - lots of great options and the Nelsonville bypass makes getting into Athens a breeze.

I like the idea but it worries me that I might have to be that sober driver. I don't know how any legitimate OU grad can complete an annual pilgrimage to Athens without a post-game shuffle down Court Street. 

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   Posted: 9/5/2014 3:15:57 PM 
We only have 3 Saturday conference home games- Buffalo, EMU and Kent. Miami is on a Friday during spring break. Toledo has 6 Saturday home games. There's no rhyme or reason to these schedules. The team that has, by far, the largest attendance in the conference should have the most opportunities to maximize attendance. Akron, Toledo and Miami would be the 3 biggest draws in the conference if they were on a Saturday when students were on campus.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/5/2014 8:16:32 PM 
OakStreet wrote:
I don't know how any legitimate OU grad can complete an annual pilgrimage to Athens without a post-game shuffle down Court Street. 



It's not that hard.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/5/2014 10:50:36 PM 
Marketing/money says don't schedule a prime game on Dad's weekend.  Dad's is a big draw already.  So, save the prime game for another day to draw big crowd on that day by dint of an attractive opponent.

Get two big days out of it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 1:15:59 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Marketing/money says don't schedule a prime game on Dad's weekend. Dad's is a big draw already. So, save the prime game for another day to draw big crowd on that day by dint of an attractive opponent.

Get two big days out of it.


Yes true but if you bring dads to a big name game they will get more interested in the program and follow the team more. If they see a good game they will want to come back. If they see a bad game they won't. So money wise I don't really know how much we get because we probably cut from future profit. Obviously you cant calculate how many would come back but I feel like once you see one good game in the convo it's hard not to come back. It seems like the biggest gap in our fan base is our parents because they really have no interest because the competition isn't good when they come so they think we're just a small time school.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 1:33:09 AM 
TheBobcatBandit wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Marketing/money says don't schedule a prime game on Dad's weekend. Dad's is a big draw already. So, save the prime game for another day to draw big crowd on that day by dint of an attractive opponent.

Get two big days out of it.


Yes true but if you bring dads to a big name game they will get more interested in the program and follow the team more. If they see a good game they will want to come back.


History has not born that out to be true.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 10:27:30 AM 
I've been under the impression Dad's Weekend dates are set years in advance by the university. Athletics then just makes sure they have a game on the schedule. But this year the date fell on "exhibition weekend" (NCAA doesn't allow regular season games), so Marietta was the best option out there. Certainly better than having Wooster or someone like that - Marietta is a draw in SE Ohio.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 10:29:16 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
We only have 3 Saturday conference home games- Buffalo, EMU and Kent. Miami is on a Friday during spring break. Toledo has 6 Saturday home games. There's no rhyme or reason to these schedules. The team that has, by far, the largest attendance in the conference should have the most opportunities to maximize attendance. Akron, Toledo and Miami would be the 3 biggest draws in the conference if they were on a Saturday when students were on campus.


We got the shaft. Period. Someone in the MAC office apparently doesn't like us very much. How in the world do we only get 3 Saturday games?? And Toledo has 6!?!?! Would love to hear the MAC higher-ups explain that one away.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 11:19:13 AM 
My two cents....

1. Three's no doubt in my mind that attendance and fan engagement for Saturday games would be better with stronger MAC opponents on those dates. But, winning and winning convincingly, has an impact on attendance.

2. From a student/athlete perspective, I would rather have our teams playing at home mid-week and on the road on the weekend. There are fewer missed classes and our student/athletes have an opportunity to be fresher in the classroom on the day following a game. Exams, presentations and due dates for papers/projects don't flex for student/athletes at Ohio. The only difference with other students that I know of is that academic advisors can administer/proctor exams if they are scheduled on a travel day. Part of the development process for our student/athletes as people is being able to get back to the Convo following a road game at 3 a.m. and being fresh/ready for an exam in your 8 a.m. class that day. But, I would rather have that happen rarely, and, for our players to have as normal a student experience as possible.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 11:31:59 AM 
JSF wrote:
TheBobcatBandit wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Marketing/money says don't schedule a prime game on Dad's weekend. Dad's is a big draw already. So, save the prime game for another day to draw big crowd on that day by dint of an attractive opponent.

Get two big days out of it.


Yes true but if you bring dads to a big name game they will get more interested in the program and follow the team more. If they see a good game they will want to come back.


History has not born that out to be true.


Who is "they" in this scenario?  Student's or dad's?  If dad's I appreciate it is not an effort to catch them.  But what about students that may not be attending, but do so because it is something to do with Dad - do we not convert a few of them? And would we not convert a few more if it was a quality game?

Count me in the use the weekend to build the brand a bit -- versus max the dollars.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/6/2014 1:36:32 PM 
A couple of my buddies brought their fathers to Dad's weekend games leading them to become pretty big Ohio basketball fans. Even following graduation, they still follow the program. That isn't to say they are diehards coming to the every game, but I know they have asked me to link them free away steams every year.

I share the outrage over the lack of home Saturday games. It is either the MAC office or our own AD... I would appreciate an explanation from either. Maybe the MAC doesn't want our attendance too far out in front of other inferior programs??

As I have said before, I don't like the good home games while students are gone. Not because students "miss" the game, but because I want our best opponents to face as tough of a home court advantage from us as possible.

...

Negativity aside... Overall, I like the SOS of this schedule. With Hawaii, I think our RPI will be good. I disagree with others who have claimed this team cannot challenge for an at-large. We have a strong starting 5. Our bench is unproven, but no one comes into a season without questions... We need to do well in Hawaii to have a chance for a high RPI, but beat GWU and another good opponent and then make the finals and that'll be a quality OOC showing (assuming we take care of business over the rest of OOC play)
Last year, our OOC showing wasn't the reason we missed the quality tournaments. Our MAC showing was. All on us.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2014-2015 Men's Basketball Schedule
   Posted: 9/7/2014 1:07:56 PM 
catfan28 wrote:
I've been under the impression Dad's Weekend dates are set years in advance by the university. Athletics then just makes sure they have a game on the schedule. But this year the date fell on "exhibition weekend" (NCAA doesn't allow regular season games), so Marietta was the best option out there. Certainly better than having Wooster or someone like that - Marietta is a draw in SE Ohio.


Moving Dads weekend to fall semester has created a real problem.  You only have 4 Saturdays for football games with the mid-week schedule.  One of those is parents weekend and one is homecoming.  Throw in band day and there is only one Saturday left.  That really limits the weekends that you can have dads weekend and that's why you end up with an exhibition basketball game.
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   Posted: 9/8/2014 11:16:18 AM 
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perimeterpost wrote:
We only have 3 Saturday conference home games- Buffalo, EMU and Kent. Miami is on a Friday during spring break. Toledo has 6 Saturday home games. There's no rhyme or reason to these schedules. The team that has, by far, the largest attendance in the conference should have the most opportunities to maximize attendance. Akron, Toledo and Miami would be the 3 biggest draws in the conference if they were on a Saturday when students were on campus.


We got the shaft. Period. Someone in the MAC office apparently doesn't like us very much. How in the world do we only get 3 Saturday games?? And Toledo has 6!?!?! Would love to hear the MAC higher-ups explain that one away.


For the life of me, I'll never understand why preferential scheduling, in terms of Saturday matchups, isn't given by the MAC to schools like Ohio, Akron, Toledo, Buffalo, Kent, Western Michigan...etc. They do a very shoddy job of putting their best games on days and in venues that will be the best showcase for the conference. In February and March, when ESPNU has those 11am time slots, the MAC should be purposely scheduling the games that they believe will be the best they have to offer. At this point, there's ZERO reason that EMU, CMU or NIU should ever get a favorable TV slot home game until they prove they can get their students and fans to come out to support the teams.

On top of that, I don't understand this unbalanced 18 game conference slate. In terms of competition, the old 16 game schedule was a better method IMO. Of course, I'd prefer to see the divisions go away altogether.

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   Posted: 9/9/2014 12:27:09 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:

Moving Dads weekend to fall semester has created a real problem. You only have 4 Saturdays for football games with the mid-week schedule. One of those is parents weekend and one is homecoming. Throw in band day and there is only one Saturday left. That really limits the weekends that you can have dads weekend and that's why you end up with an exhibition basketball game.


Moving Dad's Weekend was a bad move IMO. When you think about it, there are now tons (almost too many) opportunities for parents to see their kids in the fall, but Spring has almost nothing going on. Seems it would make sense to shuffle something here...

FALL SEMESTER
Move In Weekend: Late August
Parents Weekend: Late September
Homecoming (lots of parents back): October
Dad's Weekend: November
Thanksgiving Break (students head home): November
Winter Break (students head home): December

SPRING SEMESTER
Sibs Weekend (but no parents really come): February
Spring Break (but most don't go home): March
Moms Weekend: April

That just seems really imbalanced to me. Moving Dad's Weekend back to January would help to space things out a bit. Anyone know why they changed?? Just seems like bureaucrats making change for change's sake.
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   Posted: 9/9/2014 10:26:57 PM 
catfan28 wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:

Moving Dads weekend to fall semester has created a real problem. You only have 4 Saturdays for football games with the mid-week schedule. One of those is parents weekend and one is homecoming. Throw in band day and there is only one Saturday left. That really limits the weekends that you can have dads weekend and that's why you end up with an exhibition basketball game.


Moving Dad's Weekend was a bad move IMO. When you think about it, there are now tons (almost too many) opportunities for parents to see their kids in the fall, but Spring has almost nothing going on. Seems it would make sense to shuffle something here...

FALL SEMESTER
Move In Weekend: Late August
Parents Weekend: Late September
Homecoming (lots of parents back): October
Dad's Weekend: November
Thanksgiving Break (students head home): November
Winter Break (students head home): December

SPRING SEMESTER
Sibs Weekend (but no parents really come): February
Spring Break (but most don't go home): March
Moms Weekend: April

That just seems really imbalanced to me. Moving Dad's Weekend back to January would help to space things out a bit. Anyone know why they changed?? Just seems like bureaucrats making change for change's sake.


Maybe everyone realized that spring quarter is not when your parents should really be visiting you...A lot of things to do in the spring that parents don't want to see and kids don't want their parents to see....If my memory serves me correctly :)
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   Posted: 10/1/2014 8:47:00 AM 
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   Posted: 10/2/2014 12:35:47 PM 
Does anyone have a idea on the starting time for the Marietta game? I was planning on going to a Wittenberg football game that day but I am also interested in the basketball game as well as this is my first year with season tickets. I also follow Marietta basketball a little bit being a OAC fan. If anyone has any info it would be appreciated.
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   Posted: 10/2/2014 2:44:50 PM 
davepi2 wrote:
Does anyone have a idea on the starting time for the Marietta game? I was planning on going to a Wittenberg football game that day but I am also interested in the basketball game as well as this is my first year with season tickets. I also follow Marietta basketball a little bit being a OAC fan. If anyone has any info it would be appreciated.



If I were to guess, I'd say it'll be at 2pm since practically every game on Saturday's I've ever seen is at that time unless changed by TV. I wish this wasn't always the standard time - I think 4pm would be a great time slot on Saturdays.
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