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  Message Not Read  JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 10:44:13 AM 
Did anyone check out the twitter battle between JGuy MAC and an OU fan under moniker of Love_Bobcat?  Certainly entertaining.  Check it out if you get the chance! 
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 12:00:57 PM 
It was actually between him and our own Bobcat Love, who has been spotty with his posts on here recently. I love seeing Jeremy Guy's feathers get all ruffled.

Per their argument, Love has a point. If you work for the MAC, you should probably have a separate account from that of your own and not use the MAC name in your personal account. But, I doubt he's the only one who does so. For example, local news personalities use their news station channel in their handle. In fact, the station probably encourages it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 1:57:26 PM 
awesome. I've documented my disdain for his misuse of his work twitter account over on the MAC board. A couple of Wednesdays ago instead of tweeting about the 4 MAC games being played that night he spent the evening documenting his night out celebrating his "birthday eve". A couple of months ago it was the same thing but with a Justin Timberlake concert.

Jeremy Guy has an active personal twitter account, Love is right, we don't need this stuff from the official twitter account of the Dir of Communications for the MAC. Our DoC tweets more about the Browns and the Cavs than the MAC and is constantly name dropping restaurants his girl friend takes him to. He treats his work account like he's a celebrity who people follow because they are fascinated with his work life and personal life. We're not. Give us the relevant information about the MAC and keep your wedding plans and love for boy band singers to yourself on your personal account. It represents our conference poorly.


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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 2:07:26 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
awesome. I've documented my disdain for his misuse of his work twitter account over on the MAC board. A couple of Wednesdays ago instead of tweeting about the 4 MAC games being played that night he spent the evening documenting his night out celebrating his "birthday eve". A couple of months ago it was the same thing but with a Justin Timberlake concert.

Jeremy Guy has an active personal twitter account, Love is right, we don't need this stuff from the official twitter account of the Dir of Communications for the MAC. Our DoC tweets more about the Browns and the Cavs than the MAC and is constantly name dropping restaurants his girl friend takes him to. He treats his work account like he's a celebrity who people follow because they are fascinated with his work life and personal life. We're not. Give us the relevant information about the MAC and keep your wedding plans and love for boy band singers to yourself on your personal account. It represents our conference poorly.


I stopped following him right after the Buffalo football game when he fell silent following the crappy officiating.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 3:37:56 PM 
Does he have a personal account or is this his personal account?

I'm a little torn.  I like the personal side of it, and I understand his argument that the conference twitter is for official mac business.  The problem is when so many people associate this account with the MAC and not just with him, it becomes more or less a MAC account.  

 
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 3:40:32 PM 
I'll have to side with that LOVE character on this one.....

While I do believe the GUY has the conference's best interests at heart, he is young and unprofessional which unwittingly makes the conference come off as a minor league entity.

As I said in my tweets, you don't see the SEC Director of Communications trying to win his fiancee a dream wedding from his SEC-affiliated account.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 3:45:02 PM 
Bobcat Love wrote:
I'll have to side with that LOVE character on this one.....

While I do believe the GUY has the conference's best interests at heart, he is young and unprofessional which unwittingly makes the conference come off as a minor league entity.

As I said in my tweets, you don't see the SEC Director of Communications trying to win his fiancee a dream wedding from his SEC-affiliated account.

@SEC_Chuck

While I agree, it does seem that the equivalent at the SEC(Football) does a lot of personal tweeting.

I think I am going to change me stance to, personal tweeting is fine, but it has to be fun and or tasteful.  I think this would qualify as fun.  Tons of people on twitter were partaking in this.  Tasteful would fall short.  I do think many other young fans won't find much of an issue with this.

 
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 4:42:14 PM 
Remember when I got torn limb from limb on this site for saying exactly this about @robcwv ???

Except, that was 10X worse because on one hand he tweets as the "best color analyst in the MAC", but still uses the account for partisan political hackery.

That is FAR WORSE than what jguymac does.

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 5:12:03 PM 
I think the key is whether the account is personal or for work.

In the case of Rob Cornelius, I think it is his own personal account. I don't see anything that would indicate that it is the Ohio athletics broadcasting account, so I don't see why he can't post his own personal opinions on politics or anything else just like anyone else on Twitter. It would be wrong to say that he has to keep his opinions to himself. If you're not his friend, then there's probably not much reason to follow him on Twitter because it seems that it is entirely a personal account and there are few Tweets about the Bobcats.

As for Jeremy Guy, it's maybe a little less clear if his account is a media relations account for the MAC or his own personal account, but he seems to assert it his account and that you can follow the separate MAC sports account if you don't want some of his personal Tweets. This seems reasonable to me. Again, the guy should be allowed to have a personality.

It seems that Jason Arkley's account is quite similar to Jeremy Guy's. His place of employment is in the title but he still uses it on a personal level every once in a while. Not all of his Tweets are work-related.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 5:29:56 PM 
I am, glad I am not the only one who thinks this way

I have long felt he needs to seperate his work and personal stuff. He should be absolutely repping the MAC on the MAC account and talking about his personal liife on the other one. I do not post my facebook or twitter stuff on my practice account and do not have patients on my personal account.  Kudos to someone else for calling him out....I did it a couple of years back and he mockingly and openly brushed the polite comment aside with a bit of arrogant glee.

I would not think the MAC heirarchy should accept anything less than that degree of professionalism from the PR guy for the MAC> >>>>>>not knowing the difference from the guy in charge of the conference and it's image is a bit disconcerting is it not? 


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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 6:25:42 PM 
For those questioning if he has a personal twitter account- he does, or at least he did the last time I looked (mid December) and it was active. So maybe he deleted it? Don't know, but either way-

The twitter account being discussed is his work account and it should not be used as a personal account.

I think he sees himself as a Peter King type who comments on coffee and hotels and travel and such in his MMQB column. Others mentioned Arkley w/the Messenger for doing something similar.There are a couple of key differences to keep in mind-

1. There are other sports media members who do occasionally tweet personal tweets, but its usually kept within the context of knowing who their followers are. So Arkley might tweet about nearly sliding off the road going out to Trimble to cover a game, or Andy Staples at SI might tweet about his favorite BBQ stops on the road, but although its still sort of personal, its still somewhat relevant to their followers.

meanwhile, you get an entire 24 hours of tweets from our Com Director that looks like this- http://csnbbs.com/thread-667185.html

that reads like the twitter feed of a 12 year old girl, not the Communications Director of a D1 Conference with 5K followers.

then there's this one from a couple of weeks ago-
http://csnbbs.com/thread-672972-post-10330563.html#pid103...

he starts the day by asking to borrow someone's cable account info so he can watch the NFL Network for free on his tablet. Should the Dir of Communications be publicly asking for people to share their passcodes with non paying customers?? He then tweets that there are 4 teams playing that night, before being corrected (there were 8 teams playing). The rest of the night is spent bragging about his birthday eve dinner. which leads me to reason #2-

#2- Its not just that he's using his work twitter account for personal use, its that his job is DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS for the MAC. This twitter feed is a significant tool for him to use for the primary function of his job. EVERYTHING he tweets represents our conference regardless of his intent. As previously stated, it makes us look bush league, and its literally his job to make our league not look bush!

nothing against the guy personally, because personally I don't know Guy. But if I see another tweet wishing Justin Timberlake a happy birthday I'm going to lose it. GROW UP. and congratulations on your pending nuptials.

Last Edited: 2/4/2014 6:31:24 PM by perimeterpost


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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 6:36:13 PM 
I can't figure this one out. I thought, a year or so back, that he said he was starting a personal account

https://twitter.com/ImThatGuyJG


and that the MAC stuff was going to be split from the personal/Indians/Browns/etc. I was hoping that would happen, but it never seemed to. Both accounts are active though. So I just don't get it.

For what it's worth, I follow dozens of people for a specific reason (JguyMAC is one of them and has great MAC news). It's tough to wade through the (mostly personal) stuff that I don't care for to get the tidbits of info that I do want from different users.. At the end of the day it's a question of is the noise worth it to get what you want. Some are worthwhile and I can put up with it, and some I just can't, and therefore can't follow. I hope he has a great million dollar wedding, and I guess I'm willing to hear about it so that I can also hear with the football schedules come out :)
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 6:42:23 PM 
My greatest pet peeve is "my tweets are my own" when it is clearly identifiable who the person works for.

I often see "my tweets are my own" from journalists who have the media affiliate they work for right in their description and regularly tweet out news story as part of their job from this same account....

If you tweet something idiotic from a public account, I am going to judge both you AND the company that was dumb enough to hire you. If someone hires you, ESPECIALLY if you are in PR hired to represent/say things for the company... They are making a statement that your values are respectable enough to represent their company.

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/4/2014 8:16:36 PM 
My plan was to become a hacky writer so that no one is surprised to learn I'm an unprofessional hack when encountering  my writing online.

Mission accomplished.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/5/2014 9:53:46 AM 
I've called him out for unprofessionalism several times over the last year. He's never responded, LOVE has more street cred than me.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/5/2014 10:33:54 PM 
I am now blocked for what I thought was a relatively tame discussion. How will I ever find out whether he got his dream wedding?
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/6/2014 8:14:59 PM 
I have called him out before, but it usually for his bias of Akron basketball and how he rarely says anything about Ohio, except for when we win a game or something of that nature
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/7/2014 12:20:36 PM 
Arkley's twitter feed is about as good as it gets for media members. Hits it hard on analysis, in game tweets, stats, articles, quotes, prev history/matchup, opinions, observations, demographics, etc etc. Plus some personal tweets and RTs here and there.


What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/7/2014 4:45:54 PM 
Agreed.  Arkley is great.  It is a tough line to walk. You need to show your personal side and some edginess in order to set yourself apart, yet at the same time you need to be professional.  At the end of the day, JGuy MAC is great as a communications director.  He does a great job of getting the MAC additional exposure.  I'll accept a few bumps here and there for his overall body of work.
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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 2/8/2014 2:01:52 PM 
It's amazing how thin skinned Guy is, which is what makes his stuff so fun to read because it takes about 0.5 seconds for him to go into defensive douche mode.

You'd think a guy that works in PR would not have the workds thinnest skin.
 

Last Edited: 2/8/2014 2:03:41 PM by ts1227

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 4/17/2015 11:56:32 PM 
ts1227 wrote:
It's amazing how thin skinned Guy is, which is what makes his stuff so fun to read because it takes about 0.5 seconds for him to go into defensive douche mode.

You'd think a guy that works in PR would not have the workds thinnest skin.


Case in point: this past November I tweeted at him asking who the referee for the Ohio-Buffalo football game was, given what happened in the '13 game. I simply asked, "Hey, who's the referee tonight?" and meant it as a legitimate question. He responds with "I doubt who is his name but you may be right..." or some other sarcastic response.

Definitely not a person with a thick skin, fair to say..



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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 4/18/2015 1:19:54 PM 
He is a douche. 1st class/\

Would think that NO one would be dumb enough in that position to NOT have a personal account seperate from the MAC account.

brings me to my worst ongoing rant on JGuy.

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 4/18/2015 2:12:08 PM 
for me, what gets under my skin is that his title is "Assistant Commissioner for Communications & Social Media" so it is LITERALLY his job to use twitter to communicate about the MAC. Literally.


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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 4/18/2015 11:44:45 PM 
Paul Graham wrote:
Remember when I got torn limb from limb on this site for saying exactly this about @robcwv ???

Except, that was 10X worse because on one hand he tweets as the "best color analyst in the MAC", but still uses the account for partisan political hackery.

That is FAR WORSE than what jguymac does.

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Maybe I was mistaken, but I thought that your complaint about RobC's twitter account wasn't that he used it for political activity, but that he dared to use it for non-left wing political activity (i.e. he used it for "not your" politics).

You'll get no apology from me.

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  Message Not Read  RE: JGuy MAC-Ohio Fan Battle
   Posted: 4/19/2015 1:03:22 PM 
With Rob, his account is tweeting his primary job (which is WV republican stuff), so that's a non-issue to me. He pays the bills with the politics, and does OU color analyst work on the side. His account reflects that.

If the university was primarily paying his bills like Russ, sure, that's different.
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