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Topic: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

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MiamiBlowsChunks
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Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 5:36:52 PM

Stumbled upon this ... seems a bit harsh but, then again, not a smart thing to do.

http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/local/keller-jailed-in-ball-field-vandalism/article_1925fa32-f614-11e2-976f-001a4bcf887a.html

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UpSan Bobcat
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 5:52:33 PM

It seemed that when this story came out, some were blowing it off as not that big a deal, but obviously the judge didn't agree. I definitely thought it was a big deal and I would advocate for some jail time, but three months plus a $1,000 fine seems harsh even to me for someone with no criminal record who already had the punishment of having to pay $34,330 in damages and has taken positive steps to make sure it didn't happen again. Safe to say he should learn his lesson.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 5:54:21 PM

It was certainly dumb, but I find the sentencing here ridiculous.

I've seen crazier things happen.

C Money
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 6:13:45 PM

"Keller’s public defender, Brandon Brinegar of Kearney, had asked for probation for his client because Keller has already completed counseling, taken steps to address his alcohol issue, was a low risk to re-offend, and paid his share, $34,330, of restitution to the court. But Wright denied Keller probation saying it would be a waste of money and time because Keller didn’t have any substance abuse or other issues that probation could address."

So the lesson here is don't take responsibility or address substance abuse issues until after sentencing, and maybe you'll get out of jail time. Wonderful precedent.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 6:23:09 PM

just what we need, more young people incarcerated for non-violent crimes.

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The Optimist
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 6:33:20 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

just what we need, more young people incarcerated for non-violent crimes.

Agreed. This is a wise use of taxpayer dollars. And god knows we've got plenty of money to spend.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 6:46:20 PM

So, will he do more jail time then a certain Akron PG that pleaded guilty to felony drug distribution charges? If so, just wow.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 7:06:23 PM

I agree that this is more than excessive. What do I think should have been done:
1. He did expensive damage to the field, he should pay for it. Check...
2. He has to face the alcohol problem, so he needs to face that, and get treatment. Check...
3. He harmed the community, so I think he owes the community a fairly substantial amount of unpaid, required community service. I would have no problem with requiring 500-1000 hours of community service time.

Instead of community service, he gets jail time, which makes no sense. Instead of allowing him to benefit the community, they add expense for incarceration onto the community. For some crimes jail time makes sense. This isn't one of them. Of course, I don't know the laws involved, and maybe sentencing him to community service isn't an option.

Last Edited: 7/31/2013 7:08:41 PM by L.C.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 7:48:20 PM

Let's put this into perspective-

Noah and his friends did donuts (or "cookies") on a baseball field and caused about $100K in damages. They plead guilty and paid back every penny owed to fix the field. No one was injured, the damages weren't permanent, and the members of the community were only mildly inconvenienced as there are not a lot of baseball games played in Nebraska in November.

Keller was required to pay 1/3 of the $100K damages, + $1,000 fine, + serve 90 days in jail.

Compare that to-

Halliburton just plead guilty to destroying evidence that showed their liability in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill that killed 11 people, spilled 210 million gallons of oil into the Gulf, and caused estimated damages to the Tourism industry of $23 billion over a three year period.

Halliburton was given the maximum punishment- $200K fine and 3 years probation.

Last Edited: 7/31/2013 7:49:35 PM by perimeterpost

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 8:22:34 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

Let's put this into perspective-
... ...

What do you propose? Throw everyone who works at Halliburton in jail for 180 days?

The closest we got to a fair legal system was a few thousand years ago when Charlton Heston brought down the Decalogue from some imaginary guy sitting on a stool next to him. Ever since then, lawyers have just been screwing it up.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 10:02:57 PM

If you go to page 7 of this document, you'll find what appears to be the most recent anonymous evaluation of Judge Wright by the attorneys who practice in his courtroom. Not very impressive. He's at or near the bottom in nearly all the categories. It's too bad Noah drew this guy for his case. I hope he can put all this behind him.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 10:10:32 PM

And you wonder why I walk around this planet pissed off half the time.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 7/31/2013 10:54:09 PM

The Pessimist wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

Let's put this into perspective-
... ...

What do you propose? Throw everyone who works at Halliburton in jail for 180 days?

That would be a good start.

Alan Swank
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 8:59:56 AM

I wonder what the comments on this thread would be if this had been a player from Miami who had an equally distinguished career while playing at his respective alma mater.

Robert Fox
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 9:12:36 AM

I haven't yet commented, Alan, but I can tell you my reaction would be the same. The penalty is too harsh and needlessly burdens the community in continued expense to house Keller. I'd say the same thing if this was a Redhawk.

Want proof? I actually LIKE Miami's new uniforms. There, I said it.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 9:56:29 AM

My opinion has nothing to do with whether he is/was a football player for Ohio, Miami, or anywhere else; I would say the same thing regardless of who he was. Incarceration is an added expense to the community. Community service is a benefit to the community.

Is he dangerous? Is there a benefit to keeping him out of society for a short time? Is there something useful he is likely to learn during incarceration? If not, then why burden the community with it? I figure 90 days=13 weeks=about 520 hours of community service at 40 hours a week. The average cost of incarceration varies between $18,000 and $50,000 a year. This is a rural area, so cost is probably at the lower end, so lets call it $24,000, or $6,000 for 90 days. If his time is worth $15 an hour, 520 hours is worth $7,800. Thus the community is $13,800 worst off from a cost perspective.

Did they gain something else of value by "teaching him a lesson"? Perhaps it is a disincentive for others to do this in the future. Would it also be a disincentive to have him spend the summer, say, being a groundskeeper on city parks? I think so.

In fairness, none of us was a witness to his demeanor in court.I can't picture him being anything but contrite under the circumstances, but perhaps not.

Last Edited: 8/1/2013 9:57:05 AM by L.C.

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Ohio69
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 10:09:46 AM

Wow. Dumb decision by the judge.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Deciduous Forest Cat
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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 11:54:31 AM

Alan is right to ask the question. By rule, people from Miami should just be in jail.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 12:59:30 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Alan is right to ask the question. By rule, people from Miami should just be in jail.

When I was walking to my car the other night I saw a couple who deserved some jail time. The girl was wearing a Fiami shirt; the guy was wearing a Fichigan shirt. Made me want to puke.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 5:50:48 PM

ohio9704 wrote:

So, will he do more jail time then a certain Akron PG that pleaded guilty to felony drug distribution charges? If so, just wow.

He'll do more time than Dante Stallworth who killed someone in a drunk driving accident..if I remember correctly he was only jailed for right around 30 days. Quite a flawed system we have.

What would Charles Barkley do?

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/1/2013 6:22:11 PM

bobcats11 wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

So, will he do more jail time then a certain Akron PG that pleaded guilty to felony drug distribution charges? If so, just wow.

He'll do more time than Dante Stallworth who killed someone in a drunk driving accident..if I remember correctly he was only jailed for right around 30 days. Quite a flawed system we have.

Here is what everyone of you are missing. And I will use the above as case in point. stallworth had millions to afford a defense, Keller had a Public Defender. In our legal system cash goes a long way!

Last Edited: 8/1/2013 6:24:00 PM by BillyTheCat

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/2/2013 10:00:46 AM

Robert Fox wrote:

I haven't yet commented, Alan, but I can tell you my reaction would be the same. The penalty is too harsh and needlessly burdens the community in continued expense to house Keller. I'd say the same thing if this was a Redhawk.

Want proof? I actually LIKE Miami's new uniforms. There, I said it.

Robert--just when I was starting to find that I agree with most of your posts!

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/2/2013 11:01:07 AM

Just trying to keep you guessing, Monroe.

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RE: Keller Serving 3 Months in Jail

Posted: 8/3/2013 10:50:25 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

I thought the theater angle the PD brought up was a bit weak. Needing a stand-in for five performances of "Grease" isn't much of a burden on society.

I also have to wonder if the county attorney is up for re-election this year. This case seems like something that could've been plea-bargained.

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